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Daily Stormer
October 14, 2014

"I swear to you sister, I shall scour the entire length of these tubes, and find all of the drama in the realm, bring it home to my blog.  Then, people will finally read it." -Colin Liddell to his sister before undertaking DramaQuest 2014
“I swear to you sister, I shall scour the entire length of these tubes, find all of the drama in the realm and bring it home to my blog. Then, people will finally read it, and it will make me feel like an interesting person.” -Colin Liddell to his sister before embarking on DramaQuest 2014

This week, the DramaQuest continues, as the forces of conferences and book reviews once again confront men of action and attempt to dissuade people from taking part in the ultimate agenda of total justice so as they may continue to circlejerk without looking like fools for never doing anything and not even having any form of a plan to ever do anything!

Andrew Anglin has finally decided that he has zero interest in being cordial, and has declared Total War.

Will the forces of doing things prevail, or will those who don’t want to look stupid for spending decades doing nothing succeed in their plot to stop anyone from ever doing anything????

Find out, as Infinite DramaQuest continues, right here on the Daily Stormer!

Cast of Characters

Andrew Anglin
Andrew Anglin
Robert Ransdell
Robert Ransdell
Alex Linder
Alex Linder
Chechar
Chechar
Matt Parot and Matthew Heimbach
Matt Parrott and Matthew Heimbach
Richard Spencer
Richard Spencer
Colin Liddell
Colin Liddell
Jared Taylor
Jared Taylor
RamZPaul
RamZPaul
Greg Johnson
Greg Johnson
Carolyn Yeager
Carolyn Yeager

Previously on Infinite DramaQuest:

The heroic White warrior Robert Ransdell launched a full frontal assault on the Jews, garnering massive media attention

The YouTuber RamZPaul attacked Ransdell, accusing him of being a Jew and a secret agent

Daily Stormer Commander Andrew Anglin rushed to the defense of comrade Ransdell, stopping RamZPaul and silencing him on the issue

Colin Liddell, chief servant of Richard Spencer, clumsily attacked Anglin, accusing him of being a secret agent for talking about Jews

Commander Anglin responded to Liddell’s attack, crushing his inane arguments and mocking him for lacking the intellectual capacity to produce arguments which go beyond name calling

Jobbik pulled out of Spencerfest 2014 due to disgust at the American racism, and the Hungarian government banned the festival

Spencer held the festival anyway, was arrested and deported from the country for being an evil racist

Liddell responded to Anglin’s defensive repelling of his attack with exactly six million tears

Carolyn Yeager assessed the situation, rightfully crushing the Hitler-deniers and hoax-confirmers

Greg Johnson wrote a six million word essay, attacking everyone involved in this situation and claiming that he himself is the only person who matters

Anglin responded to Johnson’s assault, annihilating his forces entirely

Alex Linder joined the fray

A Jew in Salon Magazine attacked Philosemite Jared Taylor, accused him of Nazism

Chechar and Matt Parrott defended Anglin, the latter claiming Nazism wasn’t extreme enough

And now…

This week on Infinite DramaQuest: Colin Liddell Posts a Blog, Attempts to Outflank Us to Save His Ego, Which was Previously Put Through a Wood-Chipper

In a gross attempt to gain some traffic to his completely unread blog, Alt Right – now constantly referred to by people on the internet as “Altistic Right” – Colin Liddell has launched a third attack on yours truly, the Big Bad Wolf.

Foregoing his opportunity to present an intellectual defense for his position, Liddell went with insults, a silly tautology and an superfluous analogy.

He begins by repeating his previous insult that I am a secret agent, while once again demonstrating that no matter how many times I explain it, he will be incapable of understanding what is happening on this website.

In defense the way to win is to get your enemies to attack you at your strongest point. In offense the way to win is to attack your enemies at their weakest point.

Now, just supposing you were a White-hating, globalist shill – or a slap-headed moron who just acted like a White-hating, globalist shill – and wanted to sidetrack nationalism for as long as possible, then you would want to trick nationalists into attacking by the most bloody, dangerous, and fruitless route possible, the one where their efforts would reap the lowest possible return, and which would lead to their destruction.

In fact, you might even set up something like The Daily Stormer, a populist mix of 4chan Nazi porn, monster truck machismo, and juvenile racist trolling that serves to repel normal people from nationalism, while ghettoizing existing nationalists ever further from the mainstream.

And there you see again – we are hurting his movement by actually getting people involved in a real pro-White movement.  I guess everyone needs someone to blame, but why not blame the people who are responsible?  Why not blame the sneaking rat Jews, Colin?

Note you also see that Colin is opposed to the following things: populism, 4chan, masculinity and racism.  Or at least, those are all the things he doesn’t like about the site, and the reasons he believes – or perhaps, merely claims to believe – I am a secret agent man.

Honestly, I was a bit shocked by the rehash of the secret agent accusations.  It just seems so lowbrow, for such a highbrow intellectual figure as Liddell.

Is Andrew Anglin a for real Nazi?
The Eternal Question: Is Andrew Anglin a for real Nazi?
Or is he... a secret agent man?
Or is he… a secret agent man?

Liddell then goes on to address the recent Johnson attack and my response.

Following Greg Johnson’s thoughtful and precise article against such self-destructive Vantardism, which merely referred to The Daily Stormer in passing, that sites’s publisher Andrew Anglin was stung into writing a long, rambling, defensive, and idiotic article – Fortress Defense Saga: Greg Johnson Joins the Assault on Our Base – which, predictably, failed to address any of the pertinent criticisms made.

More obfuscation and outright lies.  Johnson himself has not denied that the criticism was largely aimed at me, and the entire thing was framed in that context.  Is Liddell incapable of grasping that, or is this merely another cheap shot, which he expects that his readers will not catch?  Does it even matter, given that he has no readers, except when he writes about me, when all of his readers are my people?

And he says that I failed to address criticisms.  He said that last time, without specifying which criticisms I had failed to address.  In fact, my response was, as usual, thorough to the max. This is just another weak insult.  If there were points that I failed to address, surely Liddell would have mentioned them explicitly – saying that some unknown points were not addressed is just Liddell taking advantage of the fact that this whole situation has been made extremely confusing by the refusal of the Right Whinge to engage in straight-talk, given that they apparently believe that saying it straight is only for coal miners and meth addicts.

Eventually, Liddell gets to his super-killer argument.

But, better than this, Anglin was flushed out by Johnson’s article into revealing his secret plan and the simplistic mechanism of his anti-nationalism. Halfway through his outpouring of butthurt flummery, there is a moment of unwitting clarity when he reveals his formula in a direct address to Johnson:

“You cannot preserve the White race without addressing the Jews.
You cannot address the Jews without addressing their hoax.
You cannot address their hoax without addressing Adolf Hitler.”

This is the article’s eureka moment – the cockroach caught in the kitchen light, so to speak – so, go back and have a good look at it again, and think deeply about what Anglin is actually saying.

What Anglin is unequivocally saying here is that before you can do anything at all about preserving and protecting the White race – stopping mass immigration, say, or encouraging White women to have at least 2.1 babies – you must first get everyone to love Hitler and hate the Jews, and if you can’t accomplish these supposed preconditions then you had best forget the whole shebang, So what he is really saying is simply:

“You cannot preserve the White race.”

Interesting that if he is trying to appeal to some sort of intellectual class, he would choose to use such a sloppy rhetorical tautology to explain his argument, huh?

I could, of course, simply flip it around to make my point:

But, better than this, Liddell was flushed out by Anglin’s article into revealing his secret plan and the simplistic mechanism of his anti-nationalism. Halfway through his outpouring of butthurt flummery, there is a moment of unwitting clarity when he reveals his formula in a direct address to Anglin:

“You cannot preserve the White race while addressing the Jews.
You cannot avoid addressing the Jews while addressing their hoax.
You cannot refuse to address their hoax without distancing yourself from Adolf Hitler.”

This is the article’s eureka moment – the cockroach caught in the kitchen light, so to speak – so, go back and have a good look at it again, and think deeply about what Liddell is actually saying.

What Liddell is unequivocally saying here is that before you can do anything at all about preserving and protecting the White race – stopping mass immigration, say, or encouraging White women to have at least 2.1 babies – you must first get everyone to ignore the thing you will constantly be equated to and get support from Jews, and if you can’t accomplish these supposed preconditions then you had best forget the whole shebang, So what he is really saying is simply:

“You cannot preserve the White race.”

But I wouldn’t ever do that, because I have this thing in my back called a “vertebral column” which physically prevents me from being capable of engaging in such base intellectual dishonesty.

Instead, I have offered detailed arguments as to why we should attack at the absolute weakest point of Jewish power, which is their idiot gas chamber hoax.

Ah, but Liddell claims that this is their strongest point!  Without explanation.  He just says it.

The only reason anyone on earth believes the hoax is because they haven't had a chance to hear the truth.  So the task is simply to let them hear it.  This is an actual goal which can be achieved, which appears to be the main reason Liddell is opposed to it.
The only reason anyone on earth believes the hoax is because they haven’t had a chance to hear the truth. So the task is simply to let them hear it. This is an actual goal which can be achieved, which appears to be the main reason Liddell is opposed to it.

He gives us this super-cute analogy (apparently for no reason, as it does nothing to push what he is selling, it is just an arduous method of repeating his “the hoax is unbeatable” theory; but as he does not have arguments to support this theory, he resorts to pointless analogies).

Imagine, if you will, a fortress that has two approaches. One is from the West, over easy terrain, over which you can move your cannon easily, towards a point where the walls are quite low and weak. It is the obvious place to attack.

On the East, however, the approach is rather more difficult. Lets say it passes over a weak rope bridge, surrounded by enormous towers packed with enemy archers. Underneath a moat full of man-eating crocodiles awaits. Once across the bridge, it is a sheer climb up slippery rocks with the approach enfiladed on three sides by the enemy’s artillery, until you reach the gate of death, where any survivors can easily be drowned in boiling oil.

Now which way would you attack? Led by a sane, honest, and wise leader, you would of course attack from the West. But led by the likes of Anglin, you would be conned into attacking by the narrow tortuous route of certain death, the Hitler route.

If it is the strongest point of fortress defense, Mr. Supersmartintellectualguy, why are they making laws all across Europe to keep people from researching or talking about it?  One would assume that this is a last-ditch effort to hold together a rapidly collapsing lie.  Instead of recognizing this obvious weakness, Liddell says it is their strongest point, and we should simply forget about it.  This is stupidly wrong on the face of it, but Liddell is now committed to it, and can’t back down.

I have an analogy too, buddy.

Imagine, if you will, a fortress that has a completely rotted-out front door.  It is the only entrance to a stone castle with 10-foot thick walls.  The door is so rotted-out, the soldiers in the fortress are literally using their own bodies to try and hold it up. It is the obvious place to attack.

On the East, however, there is a field containing a gigantic rock.

Now which way would you attack? Led by a sane, honest, and wise leader, you would of course attack the rotted-out front door and force your way into the fortress. But led by the likes of Liddell, you would be conned into going out into the field and repeatedly smashing your head against the gigantic rock, the Holocaust avoidance route.

I however, don’t require redundant analogies, as I have actual arguments.

The entire structure of Jewish dominance – which in agreeing with Johnson, maybe Liddell has pulled a kick-flip and now agrees is the main problem, but that remains unclear – is based upon the Holocaust.  Without that, they stand naked as the singular destroyers of Western Civilization.

Liddell then, for reasons unclear, compares the Holocaust to Christianity, in the process apparently denying the Holocaust and also celebrating the Jewish-backed destruction of Christianity as a good thing.

No matter how long you persist, the great mass of the population is never going to start seeing Hitler through the same rose-tinted spectacles that Anglin pretends to wear; and even though there are plenty of flaws in the story of the Holocaust, most people are going to keep on seeing it in the way that the mainstream media present it. Harnessing ethnonationalism to that dead weight is the political equivalent of sinking its body in the lake.

It took hundreds of years for the equally mythic construct of Christianity to be partially overturned – and that was with most of the forces of modernity working in tandem towards that end. With that in mind, do really think that Anglin, from the depths of his internet hole, can persuade the world that Hitler was a saint and the Holocaust was a jolly good thing and didn’t happen?

Firstly, thank you for finally admitted the hoax is a hoax, Colin. Though you did it in the most spineless way possible, at least you did it.

Bravo.

Next – what are you talking about, that it took “hundreds of years” to destroy Christianity? In fact it took a single generation – the baby-boomers – when the Jews sold the forbidden fruit of free sex and drugs and unlimited money and no responsibility forever no matter what to a bunch of gullible goyim.

I don’t want to argue about Christianity, but pretending as if the majority of the West was not Christian at the time of the war and that it was nigh exclusively Jewish cultural manipulation through the entertainment media and the university system (along with the Jewish take-over of the churches themselves) which led to a collapse of the religion is simply stupid and factually wrong.

Here’s a graph for you, good buddy:

Can you dig it?
Can you dig it?

The comparison is idiotic in the first place, as Christianity is a religion, as such based on faith rather than facts, meaning it required a philosophical change of heart about something that can’t be proved either way, whereas the Holocaust is simply a lie which can be easily disproved with already meticulously documented facts.

Seriously, man.  Why would you even say that?  Do you like being made to look stupid?  This whole thing you wrote seems to have been designed for easy ridicule, to the point where some of my readers are likely to suspect I’ve convinced you to work for me and launch the most benign possible attacks so as I can respond and make myself look smarter than I actually am.

Anyway, the fact that you would bring up the Jewish destruction of Christianity as a positive social change shows where you are coming from (I doubt you are much of a fan of Neo-Paganism either, which is generally the context of such statements in our little community).  You are a liberal.  You agree with Jewish agendas, which is why you would wish to obfuscate the fact that Jews are responsible for everything by claiming we shouldn’t blame the Jews for our problems.  The sole issue you have is the invasion by these savages, and thus you try to separate that issue from the entirety of the Jew problem.

That is the real reason you don’t want to discuss the Hoax.  If we directly attack the Jews, this whole system comes crashing down, and the balance of nature will be restored.  All the Jew influence will be deleted.  Masculinity will be restored, and all that comes with that.  And that idea makes you very uncomfortable, I am quite certain.

What are These People Even Talking About?

One of the key questions in this entire DramaQuest is: what are those in the Right Whinge actually arguing for?  They have made it clear they are against us and apparently all of our issues, and yet it is unclear what they want or how they plan to achieve it.

I think it is very telling that Liddell and Johnson both wrote essays against me and praised one another for their clever attacks on my person, when the reality is that they agree with each other about very little, ideologically.

Liddell has said that if you are going to talk about the Jews you have to be sneaky about it so that you don’t get called a Nazi, even though everyone gets called a Nazi anyway, while Johnson has said Jews are the number one enemy and that anyone who doesn’t address them is a coward, and he cited Le Pen as an example of such.  Liddell cites Le Pen as an example of successful nationalism and what we need to aim for in America.  Richard Spencer, who is the love object of Liddell, is apparently trying to model himself directly after the European “mainstreamers” that Johnson condemns as enemies.

The reason these two are on the same side against me is that they share the quality that they have no interest in a popular movement, and despise anyone who would attempt to take that route.

The ultimate idiocy here is that there is absolutely no need for “intellectual arguments” in our situation.  Any single intellectual is capable of looking at the facts and determining his own conclusions.  If he is incapable of that, then by definition he isn’t an intellectual, and thus needs to be appealed to on an emotional level.  Kevin MacDonald has already laid out all of the needed facts for any true intellectual to consume and draw the obvious conclusions from.  So the idea they are trying to convert the intelligentsia is silly because it is conceptually impossible.

So who?

Watch one of the presentations of Richard Spencer or Jared Taylor, and ask yourself: “who exactly it this supposed to appeal to?”  Go peruse Counter-Currents – or any of these other “intellectual” blogs – and ask yourself the same thing.

The answer, obviously, is middle class White liberals over the age of 40 – precisely the most useless group of people on the face of the earth, as well as the group that is the least likely to have any interest whatsoever in issues of White survival.

That is why virtually no one at all cares about Richard Spencer, Jared Taylor or any of the rest of these people, and no one ever will.

So then, who am I targeting [in America]?

First, I am targeting all disenfranchised and angry White males under the age of thirty, which is where all of the real power lies.  This site appeals to members of all socio-economic classes in that age bracket.

Second, I am targeting all age groups of traditional American conservatives, who generally come from the working and middle classes.  This is still the core of America – people who are uninterested in Spencer’s purposeful avoidance of straight-talk and surely uninterested in Johnson’s promotion of homosexuality and Antichristism.

An added bonus is that any true intellectual is able to grasp what I am doing here (it isn’t particularly complicated).  They are then surely able to gather their news from here daily, maybe having a laugh here and there while they’re at it.

Liddell is not an actual intellectual, just an upper-middle class liberal who sees subhuman hordes preparing to destroy everything he likes.  Johnson is something closer to an actual intellectual, but apparently cares very little about getting anything done and just genuinely doesn’t like people who don’t read philosophy books and read and/or write reviews of them.  Also, given that he doesn’t have children and presumably isn’t planning on producing any, he doesn’t have much of a dog in this fight, and views this as a hobby, as evidenced by the lack of a consistent ideology in his writings.

The one group I am not attempting to appeal to here is middle class liberals.

I am, unashamedly, a populist.  Every successful revolutionary movement in history has been populist in nature, for what I would have to assume are obvious reasons, but will go ahead and state anyway: a ruling minority can only ever be ousted by a disenfranchised or otherwise enraged majority; if a minority is overthrown by another minority, it is simply a power-transfer and the existing system doesn’t change in any noticeable fashion.

If this rule is wrong, give me an historical example of when something different happened.

What’s the Plan?

What these people need to explain – in real terms, rather than wordy gibberish (I won’t hold my breath) – is why, if their plan works, they have gained absolutely no traction in the many, many years they’ve been attempting this, and why, when the people are in a state of extreme need, and looking around for a solution, their popularity has not increased at all.

Pictured: Colin Liddell playing a magic flute he will use to open a portal to a wizard realm, wherein he will steal a secret potion which will save the White race
Pictured: Colin Liddell playing a magic flute he will use to open a portal to a wizard realm, wherein he will steal a secret potion which will save the White race

If Richard Spencer is the savior of the White race he has been marketed as, why does no one care about him?

And finally, if I am going about this in exactly the wrong way, why is the Daily Stormer the number one pro-White site in the United States?

They get you either way.
They get you either way.

You know why I don’t promote Richard Spencer?  Because no one cares.  No matter how many conferences he has in historic European cities, no matter how many essays he writes, no matter how many podcasts he does, no more than a handful of people are ever going to care about anything he has to say.  There is absolutely nothing inspiring about this man. He is inoffensive to the point of lifelessness, he purposefully employs a form of politician-speak that isn’t even used by real politicians anymore given that it is so widely recognized as fundamentally dishonest and has thus been abandoned by professional public speaking coaches and he refuses to offer clear solutions.

I don’t usually say these things, because I believe in solidarity, and have no beef with you people.  But at some point – I can’t pinpoint it – this debate got so ridiculous that it became necessary to inject a little bit of reality into the situation.  The idea that it is easier to get Richard Spencer elected to office than to use the internet to expose the Jews as the open and public destroyers of society is so monumentally stupid that it is almost inconceivable that anyone would be capable of formulating such an idea.

But Spencer isn’t even running for office, is he?  I guess he needed a conference in Budapest with a bunch of non-Americans before it made sense to run for office in this country.

If you people want to be in charge, then be in charge.  You don’t need my permission.  Start a movement that is more effective than the one I am presently involved in, and the people will join you.  If it works, I’ll join it myself.

The fact that you attack me and blame me for your failures simply demonstrates how pathetic and incompetent you are.

How is that not obvious to you?

It is surely obvious to most everyone else.

These Attacks of Theirs

As we saw above with Liddell’s most recent flailing attack on this site – and saw with each of the other attacks as well – these people struggle, immensely, to explain what exactly it is they don’t like about us.  Their arguments are obviously weak, based on nothing much, seemingly made of nothing they pulled out of nowhere and then expanded across dozens of paragraphs for the purpose of distorting the fact that there is no actual content.

First it was a general attack, then I responded and it was reduced, then I responded again and it was reduced again and now it is just “eh, too much Hitler – don’t do the Hitler.”

This is because they don’t actually know, consciously, why they are against us.  But I do.

What we are actually dealing with is a dislike of the basic idea of populism by a group of people who despise working people.

Here's one image Liddell used to characterize the readership of the Daily Stormer.
Here’s one image Liddell used to characterize the readership of the Daily Stormer.
Here's another.
Here’s another.

I have read Kierkegaard, Schopenhauer and Nietzsche, I have been to probably fifty different countries.  I am not Homer Simpson (a Jewish caricature mocking the traditional American White Man, the posting of which certainly says a bit about Colin’s general mindset), nor am I am obese basement troll.  What I am, however, is post-liberal.  I understand that the system of liberalism is unsustainable, that if Liddell and Spencer were to have their way the same exact situation would happen again, and that the only solution to the problems we face is radical Traditionalism in every sector of society.

Hitler was a populist.  That is why Liddell dislikes him.  Not because he actually believes in the hoax or believes this was some “dark part” of history.  Johnson respects the aesthetic of National Socialism (as well as a lot of post-Hitler Nazi esoterica), so doesn’t condemn Hitler, but recognizes our use of this aesthetic is for populist purposes, and so condemns us for using it.

These people won’t ever change anything, because even if they claim to want to, they are unwilling to recognize the only way it could be done, which is through direct and unapologetic appeal to the masses.

The Sheer Idiocy of Pro-White Liberalism

The last point in the entire debate is that no matter what you do, if you are attempting to restore traditional European society, you are going to look and act basically exactly like Nazis. Because NS was the post-industrial revolution embodiment of traditional Europeanism.  It was scientifically formulated as such.

What happens is that the further you try to get away from the label of “Nazi,” the more you necessarily have to compromise, because in fleeing the label, you abandon stances and doctrines with similarities to those of the NSDAP, and so are forced to abandon key aspects of a nationalist platform.

"The most popular people's movement in history, which also happened to promote the exact goals we're trying to promote?  Let's distance ourselves from that as far as possible." -Liddell Logic 101
“The most popular people’s movement in history, which also happened to promote the exact goals we’re trying to promote? Let’s distance ourselves from that as far as possible, it’ll never work.” -Liddell Logic 101

Basically, what the Right Whinge are trying to do is combine modern liberalism with a whites-only society. And though I want something very much more extreme than that, if I thought it was possible to achieve that, I might put aside my agenda and embrace it. After all, a whites-only society, whether based on liberal principles or not, would at least give us more radical folks the option of existing how we wish to exist, free from harassment by the system.

We would also end up voting our way into power anyway through the liberal democracy system that the pro-White liberals would doubtlessly leave in place, as conservatives are still the majority in America if you get rid of the Jews and non-Whites, at which point we could form a one-party system and end the vote.

However, this plan for a liberal White revolution can’t possibly work. Even if you could manage to combine liberal thought with the concept of a Whites-only society (that is, isolate racial identity from other forms of social conservatism) – and you couldn’t, as is evidenced by Johnson’s attempts to do so, which contain endless inconsistencies and outright contradictions (one of the most blatant being complaining about the White birthrate while celebrating homosexuality) – it would be incapable of achieving victory over the present system, largely due to the fact that liberals are weak and gutless cowards, as evidenced by Liddell and others continually speaking out against “hate” and defaming anyone who ever accomplished anything that mattered.

As I have said, they are also fundamentally incapable of rallying the masses.

It's easy to rally people against this.
It’s easy to rally people against this.
You just add this.
But you can’t leave out this.
And this.
Or this.

What rallied the masses in the sixties, when liberalism began its conquest of the West, was seduction. They offered free sex, drugs and a general lack of any personal responsibility. Plus a lot of really good music. But the people now have all of these things. So what would you then rally them behind? Just “we need rid of these foreigners and Blacks, so we can have peace”?

It cannot work. Yes, of course people are fed up with foreigners and Blacks, but that idea alone cannot maintain a new Zeitgeist. It cannot stir the youth to revolution. What can stir the youth to revolution is a critique of the entire system of the Jews, and the way it has affected all of us on a personal level.

No one disagrees.  But we're going to need something a little bit more than that for the bottom line.
Yeah… we’re going to need something a little bit more than that for the bottom line.

The fact that we can see all of these people invading our countries and feeding off of us like buzzards on a still breathing man is indeed powerfully upsetting, but at this point those who are inspired by liberal thought – who are definitively a part of a very specific socio-economic class – can still avoid them, for the most part, and it doesn’t much matter if in thirty years they are the majority, because who cares what happens in thirty years?  Certainly childless middle class White liberals do not.

However, if we look at the entirety of the effects of Jew liberalism on us, the levels of alienation we’ve suffered in our individual lives, the way our families have been torn apart, the way we have been undermined by the fairer sex which was created by God to be our faithful companion, the way our masculinity has been stripped from us, the way our identity and sense of belonging has been crushed into powder and swept out into the sea – then we are left with material fit for Total Revolution.

We are vocalizing an idea which appeals to the masses, a full-on rebellion against modernity.  Hitler is the ultimate symbol of that, because Hitler is Old Europe, and Old Europe is what our very bones are calling out for.  National Socialism was the pinnacle of European civilization.  In order to progress forward, we must first return to that point.

This is the only plan which can possibly work.  Thus we should relish in extremism, not avoid it.  It is all or nothing.  There is no halfway.  Halfway is impossible.  The entire Jewish system must be removed.

Unlike Johnson, I won’t attack “mainstreamers” as useless, as I believe they ultimately move things in the right direction, even though they don’t go the whole way.

However, in the end, the only way we are going to fix society is through hardline National Socialism.

The Jew system doesn’t accept apologies for being White and I wouldn’t be willing to offer one anyway.

I am White.

I am a National Socialist.

And I am not sorry.

Deal with it.
Deal with it.

Hail Victory.
Andrew Anglin

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Poll Friday: Is There Too Much Nazi Imagery on the Daily Stormer? https://www.anglinarchive.com/2014/10/10/poll-friday-is-there-too-much-nazi-imagery-on-the-daily-stormer/ Fri, 10 Oct 2014 00:00:00 +0000 Andrew Anglin
Daily Stormer
October 10, 2014

Here to inspire you, so that you might understand what it is we are trying to do.  Also, to stick it to the Jew.
Here to inspire you, so that you might understand what it is we are trying to do. Also, to stick it to the Jew.

So, as the dear reader is aware, I have been recently attacked by multiple members of the alleged White Nationalist movement.  One of their key complaints is that this site uses too much NSDAP imagery.

Of course, I changed the banner, in part because it was too Nazi, and I thought it more prudent to simply include Nazi concepts in the articles, rather than announce it at the top of the site.  However, as I explained in my response to Greg Johnson this morning, I do believe that promoting Hitler and the National Socialists is an important aspect of the propaganda agenda.  I believe I have fully explained my reasons for this, and thus far, none of the haters have countered my arguments.

I am interested in what the reader thinks.

Is there too much Hitlerism on the site?  Should it be toned down?

[yop_poll id=”11″]

If you like, explain your reasoning in the comments section.

Note: I just remembered I have graphs for the last poll, regarding music tastes.  I’ll put those up sometime this week.  I get so busy sometimes, brothers.  Hard to get everything done that needs done.

Note 2: Regarding the use of the word “Nazi,” which some people complain about, I have decided I like the word, and it isn’t a slur at present, even if it used to be.  I generally use it somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but at the same time, think it sounds cool.  You’re also welcome to state your opinion on that in the comments section below.

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Fortress Defense Saga: Greg Johnson Joins the Assault on Our Base https://www.anglinarchive.com/2014/10/10/fortress-defense-saga-greg-johnson-joins-the-assault-on-our-base/ Fri, 10 Oct 2014 00:00:00 +0000 Andrew Anglin
Daily Stormer
October 10, 2014

Writing an article attacking me without providing a direct link, Greg?  How you gonna do me like that, bro?
Writing an article attacking me without providing a direct link, Greg? How you gonna do me like that, bro?  Anyway, I’m going to go ahead and link you, since I personally subscribe to the belief that it is important for my readers to know what I am talking about.

As was obviously bound to happen, Counter-Currents’ Greg Johnson has joined the assault on The Daily Stormer, attempting to weaken our resolve and capture our fortress through subterfuge and complex trickery.

Johnson has thrown in with the likes of Alt Right and RamZPaul – a group collectively referred to as the “Right Whinge” by everyone on the internet – to attack us for doing a good job and actually getting people aware of and interested in the struggle for White survival.

Johnson’s essay, which calls me and my people – you, dearest brothers – “retards” in the most clever of fashions (Greg is big on clever fashions), reduces the arguments of Colin Liddell, which were largely weak and stupid, into a simplified form: “yeah, it’s cool guise, but 2 much rednecks and Hitlers lol.”

He coins the term “vantard” to refer to us, claiming that we are populist retards pretending to be the vanguard of the revolution, while he is the real vanguard.

Overall though, the piece is quite good, I believe, in that it makes a point of agreeing with everything I have been saying for years… then somehow uses these points to attack me.

Johnson writes:

For me, there are four political absolutes:

  1. Europeans constitute a distinct race, the white race. Thus to be French or German or Swedish or Greek or Italian or Irish is also to be white. Therefore, no non-racial form of civic, linguistic, cultural, or religious nationalism is sufficient to defend European peoples. Because non-whites can be citizens of European lands, speak European languages, share in European culture, and profess Christianity, any form of nationalism that cannot distinguish such people from whites cannot save our race.
  2. The white race is threatened with simple biological extinction, compared to which all other political issues are trivial distractions. Only by recognizing the absolute and biological nature of the threat can we define a real solution and create the necessary moral seriousness and urgency to implement it.
  3. The only tenable solution to the threat of white extinction is White Nationalism: the creation of homogeneously white homelands for all white peoples, which will require the alteration of political borders and the mass resettlement of non-whites.
  4. Jews are not Europeans. Many Jews have European blood, but they have a distinctly non-European consciousness, which defines their origins, interests, and destiny in contradistinction to Europeans. This means that there is an inevitable conflict between Jewish and European interests and identity. There is, moreover, a long history of Jewish enmity and malevolence towards Europeans, which has sometimes — though not always — been recognized and reciprocated. Finally, although White Nationalists can debate endlessly on the relative responsibility of Jews for the perilous state of white humanity, there should be no debate on the fact that the organized Jewish community is the principal enemy — not the sole enemy, but the principal enemy — of every attempt to halt and reverse white extinction. One cannot defeat an enemy one will not name. Therefore, White Nationalism is inescapably anti-Semitic.

So. We agree on all of this.

What then, is the issue?

Well, we’re going to try and figure that out (SPOILER ALERT: I read this entire article, and we never actually figure it out –Ed).

He mixes the attack on me with attacks on the rest of the “New Right,” who he accuses of “mainstreaming” and denying the Jew question.  A point I obviously agree with.  Interestingly, it seems Johnson’s position is much closer to our own than that of the likes of Liddell, Spencer and Taylor.  He is just apparently worried that if we populists are successful, after the revolution he will be forced to attend backyard BBQs and drive a pick-up truck while blasting Waylon Jennings.  He then squirms around and attempts to provide an intellectual justification for his fear that we will Waylocaust him, and fails.

"I'd rather the White race be completely destroyed by the Jews than allow Anglin to take over the government and force me to watch action films." -Greg Johnson, in a secret meeting with Colin Liddell in a really nice hotel in Prague
“I’d rather the White race be completely destroyed by the Jews than allow Anglin to take over the government and force me to eat at Waffle House and watch UFC.” -Greg Johnson, during a secret meeting with Colin Liddell at an exquisitely fantastic historical hotel in Prague

Johnson even admits that we are right about Hitler, just says we shouldn’t talk about it.

He writes:

Of course vantards can protest that Adolf Hitler did, in fact, agree with our principles. That is true of course, and to Hitler’s credit. It is also true of quite a lot of other intelligent whites. But the things we believe are true and good regardless of what any historical figure thought about them, one way or the other. So does harping on Hitler, no matter how factually correct one might be, make it any easier to persuade the people we are trying to save?

This is an admission of Hitler truth, which can be cited by enemy forces seeking to make him look nuts, if that is in fact how these things work (that is how he and others claim these things work).

So it’s not “don’t defend Hitler,” it’s just “don’t defend Hitler on a regular basis.”

Still, he shows he has more spine than the slithering holo-hugger Liddell, who claims we blame all our problems on innocent Christ-Killing Jewish farm weasels and should accept that it is all our own fault and then cry about it.

He then attacks us for allegedly appealing to “inferior” Whites:

The second vantard error is to insist on what I call “premature populism,” which is presented as an appeal to working class whites but is in fact usually just an appeal to stupid, vicious, and tasteless whites of all social classes (and an implied insult to working class white people). But our movement should aim to recruit whites of all social classes who are above average in intelligence, virtue, and taste. At this stage we simply don’t need inferior whites, and no special efforts should be made to recruit them. We’ll represent their interests just like the rest of our folk, but we would be foolish to trust our racial salvation to them.

By “inferior” Whites, presumably, he means “people who do actual work.”

Definitely looks to be a load of gibberish thinly veiling gross levels of blatant elitism, but as I will not base my response on presumptions, Johnson will need to clarify what he means by “inferior” Whites.

We would be foolish to trust
We would be foolish to trust our racial salvation to men such as this…
...this is what we need more of.
…this is what we need more of.

Thus, until such a time as the meaning of this term is explicated by Johnson, we will deal instead with the accusations of obsessive Hitler-worship (because it is okay to say Hitler was the good guy, it just isn’t okay to say it very often).

Firstly, I agree with Johnson’s calls of “by any means necessary.”  Damn straight – we’ve got an extinction scenario on our hands here.

Adhering to this principle, I will say that though I admittedly enjoy it, I have no specific emotional need to discuss the Third Reich or the Hoaxocaust, and would stop doing it if someone could present a good reason to. Thus far, I have simply witnessed a flailing demonstration of a lack of an understanding of why I talk about Third Reich history, rather than a decent argument against the logic I am employing in doing so (which I haven’t been secretive about).

The first reason that World War II history is important is that, as Johnson admits, Jews are the primary enemy of the White race. The base of Jewish power is their position as unquestionable, due to their alleged suffering. The source of this position is their filthy Jew lies about Hitler and the alleged 6 trillion. Thus, in order to fight our primary enemy, the Jew, we must remove his unquestionable status, and in order to remove that status, we must expose the hoax. Showing the true nature of the Reich is necessary because it works to expose the hoax.

On top of this, National Socialism is clearly the natural foundation of any future White society, as it is scientifically perfect. The response to that from the Whinge would be that we can use the ideas of Hitler without the swastikas and salutes, but that point is moot because you are going to get called a Nazi no matter what.

It is slightly profound that this dramarama with the ongoing attacks on The Daily Stormer by these people who agree with all of our goals but find us annoying (slash retarded secret agents) is coinciding with the Budapest dramafest wherein Richard Spencer, a pillar of the “take it easy, bro, it’s cool” White movement was banned from Hungary and arrested for being an evil racist.

The weakest part of the essay is when Johnson quotes Liddell’s stupid analogy about leftists not promoting Pol Pot or Mao. Liddell argued that the Third Reich was a “dark part” of the history of nationalism, and thus should be hushed up and forgotten about. However, Johnson himself praises Hitler as a hero (as quoted above from the very essay I am responding to), so presumably would not consider this a “dark part” of history.

The darkest days of White history, when six million teenage girls were forced to giggle with Adolf Hitler, the number one lampshade and soap producer of the twentieth century.
The darkest days of White history, when six million teenage girls were forced to giggle with Adolf Hitler.

His purpose for quoting that passage is that though unlike Liddell, he is in possession of a spine, he believes that there is no way to rehabilitate this part of history, so the Jewish lies might as well all be true, thus we need to surrender and accept their ridiculous narrative of lampshades and soap and just try to work around it.

How on earth are you going to work around the Holocaust, Mr. Johnson? It is the event most closely associated with Jews in the minds of all normal White people. And as you say in your essay, it is absolutely necessary not to compromise on the Jew question, and as an Anitsemitic nationalist, your ideology will, no matter what, be directly linked to Nazism, always.

And it isn’t like it’s super difficult to disprove the hoax.  It takes a maximum of two hours and five minutes.

From where I am sitting, these “mainstreamers” you criticize in your essay ultimately went mainstream because refusing to address Third Reich history put them in a position where they had no moral grounds upon which to approach the Jewish question, and thus they had to forego addressing it and instead just claim that White people did all of this to themselves for no reason.

Let me explain something to you here, Greg.

You cannot preserve the White race without addressing the Jews.

You cannot address the Jews without addressing their hoax.

You cannot address their hoax without addressing Adolf Hitler.

The real retardation here, Greg, is imagining you can somehow navigate around the source of Jew power.

So as long as the hoax stands, you and your essay-writing, conference-holding buddies are the same thing as us skinheads with our gas chamber jokes in the minds of virtually everyone on earth. You blame us for existing, claiming that if we didn’t exist they wouldn’t be able to lump you with us, but they would be calling you the exact same thing even if we didn’t exist.

The only thing that The Daily Stormer not existing would mean is that instead of tens of thousands of people reading articles about White issues daily, there were be a few hundred. You and your circle-jerk would have the same number of readers, and still be called evil racist Nazis for suggesting that White people have a right to exist.  You and I both know there will never be a softer White advocate than Richard Spencer – he has put his entire being into being as soft and non-threatening as is humanly possible – and what happened to Richard earlier this week, Greg?

Do you remember what happened to Richard Spencer, the softest ever White advocate, earlier this week, Greg Johnson?

The Richard Spencer Story: Coming soon to a Hungarian jail near you.
The Richard Spencer Story: Coming soon to a Hungarian jail near you.

The Jewish fantasy version of the Third Reich is the defining force of the 20th century, and the only reason any of these problems we both want to solve are happening in the first place.  It simply cannot be pushed under the rug.

Failing to Internet, Massive Misconceptions About Modern Youth Culture

Another aspect of this debate which I will just throw into this rambling screed, which is sure to be over 9000 times less refined than Johnson’s essay, which was a admittedly an A+ masterpiece of essayism (as is generally his style), is the fact that Johnson and the rest of the Right Whinge have zero conception of modern youth culture, and apparently mistake the intelligent White former-middle class for redneck methheads.

Johnson enjoys attacking working people who don’t read philosophy books as “inferior,” and implying they are worthless, but seems unclear about the fact that working people are not what makes up the bulk of our readership.  The majority are under-thirties, who probably grew up in middle class homes and did some college, probably have above-average IQs.

Greg Johnson first learned about the Daily Stormer agenda from Breaking Bad.
Greg Johnson first learned about the threat of the Daily Stormer agenda from an artsy television drama.

Interpreting our presentation as 100% serious is ridiculous, but appears to be where these people are coming from.  The Daily Stormer has a layered brilliance.  Though I offended a few people when I labelled the site “vulgar propaganda” in my response to Liddell’s initial assault, this is both a method of influence as well as a stylistic choice that appeals to any major dude.

One of the key figures of modern internet culture just came out as a full Nazi on this site, Greg.  What does that tell you?  What it tells me is that you are outside of the modern paradigm of youth culture, and when you criticize me, you are criticizing a fantasy of beer-chugging hillbillies in trailers.

What is actually going on here is something much more subtle, and something much better:

Nazism is hip.

We are the cutting edge of cool, whereas you are the cutting edge of weird.

The Daily Stormer: It's where all the cool kids hang out.
The Daily Stormer: It’s where all the cool kids hang out.
Counter-Currents: It's where this sort of thing happens.
Counter-Currents: It’s where this sort of thing happens.

That is the core irony of this.  Whereas you people are attacking me as if I’ve no idea how to appeal to masses of people, I have hit on a method of appealing to masses of people which has proven to be exponentially more effective than anything the Right Whinge has accomplished in however many decades.  Which is why I am now so much more popular than you that you feel the need to attack me and call me a retard.

Although I do fancy a working man’s revolution, and speak to that audience directly as much as I am able, the larger agenda is to reshape White Nationalism, which is naturally cool but has had it’s coolness stripped from it by vampires like Jared Taylor, back into something that the youth can embrace with vigor, in the way the sixties generation embraced liberalism.

We need sexiness.  We need romance.  We need youthful rebellion.  And we need it quickly.

Please refer me to imagery that embodies all of these qualities more than that of Nazism.

Inspiration.
Inspiration: There was actually a time when scenes such as this happened in real life.  And it is possible it could happen again.

We also need to lol, Greg.  Because laughing is the one thing that is going to keep us sane in a world where sanity itself is virtually a capital offense.

My goal is that anyone who comes to this site laughs out loud at least once every visit.

Anne Frank died of typhus after the allies bombed the supply lines.  Following this, she was made into a lampshade or whatever lol
This is funny, Greg.  It is funny on a level you may be incapable of grasping.  It is funny enough to remove the emotional attachment to the hoax, funny enough to make someone want to join a group that is capable of such lols.

How you have all missed all of this is beyond me.  But it truly appears that you are so far removed from the present youth culture of White people, as well as the basic eternal principles of what inspires young people, that the entire Stormer operation has flown right over your head, like a Messerschmitt Me 262 over a field of goats.  You have merely attacked a fantasy you’ve created in your mind, and like Liddell, actually think I am trying to be Romper Stomper when I post pictures of it to mock his “these damn kids” attempt to portray me as such.

It’s cool though, bro.  I’m not mad.

Just to be Crystal (No, Not Meth Johnson, You Troll)

According to his four principles, Johnson and I share the same basic goal.  However, we have severely different methods of pushing for these goals.

My technique includes the following elements:

  • Nazism
  • lols
  • Traditional American straight talk
  • Shocking, offensive and hilarious propaganda
  • Traditional Christian values

Conversely, Johnson’s technique includes:

  • Essays
  • Conferences
  • Reviews of books no one cares about
  • Writing of books no one cares about
  • Promotion of homosexuality as a cornerstone of White civilization

You can decide which is likely to work best.

Or, you can just look at these graphs.

Counter-Currents
Greg Johnson’s Counter-Currents
Andrew Anglin's Daily Stormer
Andrew Anglin’s Daily Stormer

And, just for the record:

Jared Taylor's AmRen
Jared Taylor’s AmRen
Richard Spencer's Radix Journal
Richard Spencer’s Radix Journal
Colin Liddell's Alt Right
Colin Liddell’s Alt Right

“But listen to me, you stupid Nazis, you are never going to get anywhere promoting Nazism.  You need to do what we do.  It is the only way to be effective.  It’s what will really bring the chickens home to roost, or whatever farming analogy you prefer, plebeian.  If you don’t follow this method, you are a secret agent, or a retard, or whatever.”

Don’t worry, Greg.  Once we are successful in our revolution, we won’t make you go to BBQs or drive a pick-up truck.  You, Liddel, Spencer and Jared Taylor will, however, be forced to listen to Waylon Jennings at least three hours a day for a year straight as part of our mandatory Nazi “man-up” program, which anyone who ever told The Daily Stormer to tone it down will be forced to go through.

The Truth is, None of These People Matter

The bottom line in all of this drama is that these people are nigh irrelevant, and that is likely the core of this whine festival they are hosting.  They are pissed off about the kid with the shaved head and the endless lampshade jokes making more noise in two years than all of them combined, plus their predecessors, were able to make in twenty years.

What matters is what we are doing.  We are invading popular culture, we are rallying the sections of society that matter under a single banner.  It is sad that we have to suffer attacks from jealous and/or confused persons who claim to support the cause of White liberation, but such is life, and a tear I have not shed.

I respond because they are spreading information which may confuse, and thus there is a need to state my perspective.  It stands for posterity, so that perhaps these arguments will stop showing up, given that no one with any degree of integrity can ever take them seriously again.  I once did a similar thing to the Arab terrorist Mark Glenn when he was demanding that Antisemites embrace Islamic immigrants – you don’t see anyone talking about that anymore, do you?

As we continue to move forward, the truth will become more and more obvious: that the format of the Daily Stormer – this embodiment of teenage angst having become twenty-something anger over no past, no present and no future – has laid out is the precise way forward.  We need young men of all classes to embrace their hatred of a system which robbed them of the nations their ancestors created for them, robbed them of the power and the glory of the historical European society.

And we are doing that.

The Right Whinge has bunglingly appealed to class warfare concepts in an attempt to tear down White unity for reasons which remain unclear, and this has failed.  They have been confronted, they themselves have been torn down, and they have been dismissed.

Forward, march.

Whether we are the sons of craftsmen and butchers or the sons of university professors and neurosurgeons, we know that we are all the sons of Europa.

Together.

We.

Stand.

Brothers, all.  Now until the end of time.
Brothers, all. Now until the earth crashes into the sun.

So, Anyway…

We’re moving forward, Greg.  We have a plan, and the plan is coming together.

Do your thing.  Write your books about poetry and pederasty.  We’ve no beef with you.

Please, just stay out of our way.

From my cold, dead hands.
From my cold, dead hands.

Hail Victory.
Andrew Anglin

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